Bonus Author Interview: Fool by K.R. Lockhaven
Bonus Episode
Release Date: September 16, 2026
In this entirely spoiler-free interview, your hosts talk to K.R. Lockhaven about his most recent novel, Fool. They ask some questions about court jesters, mysteries, and relationship dynamics. A full discussion of the book, just between your hosts, will be out next week.
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- Josh Woodward for the use of “Electric Sunrise”
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Episode Transcript*
*this transcript is generated by Descript, please excuse the mess.
Lilly 0:04
Hello and welcome to Fiction Fans, a podcast where we read books and other words too. I'm Lily
Sara 0:10
And I'm Sarah, and I'm so pleased to welcome K.R. Lockhaven back onto the podcast today this time to talk about his new novel, "Fool."
Kyle 0:18
Thank you for having me. It's great to be back
Lilly 0:21
We are so excited to talk to you. We have recorded a full conversation on this book, but that won't be coming out for a little while because your book just released today as of recording.
Kyle 0:33
Woohoo!
Sara 0:34
Yay!
Kyle 0:35
Yay
Lilly 0:36
But I'm getting ahead of myself. First, we have our theoretically five-minute introduction, what's something good that happened recently, Kyle?
Kyle 0:45
Well, this one's pretty easy. The book Fool came out today.
Lilly 0:50
Congratulations
Kyle 0:52
Thank
Sara 0:52
That is definitely a good thing
Kyle 0:55
yeah, it's been-- This one's been a long time in the making. Been, like three and a half years actually, like when I, when I look back at it, which is the longest it's ever taken me to, to write anything, so
Lilly 1:08
Wow. And also, fuck you a little bit. Sorry.
Kyle 1:13
Oh, that wasn't, that wasn't aimed at you.
Lilly 1:16
Listeners, I'm joking. No, we're not talking about me and how it-- I've have been working on the same three books for the last 15 years.
Kyle 1:25
They're gonna be good though
Lilly 1:27
I hope so. Yeah, so "Fool" is not part of your Azure Archipelago series. This is a, a new world,
Kyle 1:35
Yep
Lilly 1:36
and I'm very excited to ask you so many questions about it.
Kyle 1:41
All right. I'm ready, I think
Lilly 1:43
Yeah. Sarah, what's something great that happened for you lately?
Sara 1:47
My good thing is that yesterday was Dumpling's birthday. She turned three. Thank you. I will admit to being a terrible pug mom. I forgot yesterday that it was her birthday and only remembered today. But yeah, she is three
Lilly 2:04
Wonderful. Well, when, when you remembered, did you do anything nice to make up for it?
Sara 2:10
No. No, because she's on a diet because she has congenital hip dysplasia, and so she has to, like, keep weight off so that it's easier on her hip. And she also went to the vet to get a cartilage shot, which is
Lilly 2:25
So it was actually a terrible
Sara 2:26
also not great. Yeah. And I felt really bad about that. But being in less pain is a good thing, so, you know
Lilly 2:36
Well, still one of the happiest pugs in the world
Kyle 2:41
For sure
Lilly 2:42
a crappy birthday.
Sara 2:43
she is now.
Lilly 2:45
Yes.
Sara 2:45
And I'm sure that it was a better birthday than her first one
Lilly 2:50
Yes is that her that we could just hear?
Sara 2:54
Yes, that is her and Cookie, her little sibling. Cookie being a little sibling.
Lilly 3:01
Mhm Well, my good thing is both very small but very impactful. I got some new jewelry for one of my ear piercings. It's the one that's like in this part, the tragus for listeners which is a piercing that I love quite a bit but has made it impossible to use earbuds for the last like 10 years or however long I've had it. So I finally got jewelry that has a flat back and I can use earbuds again and it's life-changing.
Kyle 3:33
Oh yeah, I
Sara 3:34
Congratulations
Lilly 3:36
Thank you. It cost like a whopping $11 and I was like, "Wow, I should have done this so long ago." I thought it was gonna cost more than that. I don't know. But yeah.
Kyle 3:46
I don't know what I'd do without earbuds. I feel like I have them in as much as the teenagers do these days.
Lilly 3:52
I've been one earring it. I, I could put it in, but it would hurt really quickly. So if I had two earbuds in, it was a-- I was always on a time limit. What is everyone drinking tonight?
Kyle 4:06
I am having the only alcohol I had in the house, which is just a Modelo beer. And it's pretty good
Lilly 4:15
Well, we agreed that beer feels right because our characters do visit, I would say some like lower brow bars in
Kyle 4:25
Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I should have had a dark ale really if I would've prepared better. Darn it.
Lilly 4:31
So listeners, the, a better drink pairing would be a dark ale, or as you'll hear in our follow-up conversation, red wine is also a great choice for this
Kyle 4:42
Yes. Yeah.
Lilly 4:43
for reasons.
Kyle 4:44
Right
Sara 4:45
I do also think that cheap whiskey would be a good, like, low, low bar or lowbrow bar vibe.
Kyle 4:53
Totally
Sara 4:55
but I can't support drinking cheap whiskey, so
Kyle 4:58
Right
Lilly 4:59
And I can't support drinking beer, so I'm drinking cider.
Sara 5:03
I'm also drinking cider
Lilly 5:06
That's-- I mean, everyone should drink beer if they like it, but I, I don't, so I choose not to.
Kyle 5:11
Yeah
Lilly 5:13
And has anyone read anything good lately other than "Fool," of course, that we're about to talk about?
Sara 5:20
I'm still in a book slump, a reading slump, so I have not done any extracurricular reading.
Kyle 5:29
I have done a little bit. I'm reading two things right now. We Break Immortals" by,
Sara 5:34
Oh,
Kyle 5:35
Thomas Howard Riley. It is a big, big chunker.
Sara 5:39
That is a chonky book
Kyle 5:41
I just got the hardcover today actually. I, I bought it on ebook, and finally... I should have started reading it a long time ago, but I j- I just got around to it, and after 50 pages I was like, "Mm, I wanna have the real thing of this." That's... I, I'm really enjoying it
Sara 5:58
I think I... So I actually haven't read it, but I own it both in e-book and in hardcover, and I think it's a book that I couldn't read in, in physical form just because it is so chonky. Like, I think, I think I would have to... Like, I'm very glad to have the hardcover. It's a book that I want to have in hardcover,
Kyle 6:17
Yeah, it looks great.
Sara 6:18
because it's beautiful, yeah. But I think that when I do read it, it's gonna have to be the e-book
Kyle 6:23
Yeah, that makes sense. I'm also reading JJK again, Jujutsu
Sara 6:29
"Jujutsu Kaisen"?
Kyle 6:30
Yes.
Sara 6:32
That is something that I have semi-gotten into. I don't want to read the manga 'cause I just, I have trouble reading manga. But I'm looking forward to watching the anime even though I do think that it's going to be too depressing for me. I kn- I know all of the spoilers, or I know a, a bunch of the spoilers, so
Kyle 6:51
Yeah. Yeah. I, I just love it. I, my, my son got me into this whole world and you know, I'm, I'm in now
Sara 7:01
we will have to have an offline conversation about it at some point, 'cause I'm f- I'm very excited to get more into it
Kyle 7:08
Nice
Lilly 7:09
I am rereading "Morning Glory Milking Farm" by-- Oh, I should credit the author, C.M. Nascosta. Nascosta. Yep.
Kyle 7:21
So is that like it sounds?
Lilly 7:23
Yes. Well, no, it's about minotaurs.
Sara 7:27
Also, you know
Lilly 7:29
oh, I, as one of the characters in the book says, "Minotaurs don't have udders." Yes. Correct.
Kyle 7:37
All right.
Sara 7:38
It
Kyle 7:38
good?
Lilly 7:39
Is it good? Eh, it's okay. It's, for a, for a sexy book, there's a weird lack of sex in it. Yeah
Sara 7:49
I, I think that it plays it too straight.
Lilly 7:53
Mm-mm.
Sara 7:53
It doesn't, it doesn't lean hard enough into the ridiculous premise.
Lilly 7:58
It's doing a silly thing,
Sara 8:00
Yeah. I,
Kyle 8:01
okay
Sara 8:02
I, I went into it expecting something a lot more silly and self-aware, and instead it's actually just a pretty straightforward romance novel. So I was kind of disappointed by it.
Kyle 8:14
Yeah, with that title you would think it had some silliness
Lilly 8:19
Yeah, there actually very little silliness.
Sara 8:22
Ja
Lilly 8:22
Which would've been okay if it delivered in other aspects. I, yeah. Mostly I'm making my husband Danny read it.
Kyle 8:30
Nice.
Lilly 8:31
But we are here to talk about "Fool" by Kyle, you dropped your R, your second R. We're gonna complain about it.
Kyle 8:41
I know you guys wouldn't be happy about that, but thought it had to be done.
Sara 8:46
I miss that redundant R.
Kyle 8:48
I know.
Sara 8:49
so good
Kyle 8:51
and it's been kind of a, maybe not something I didn't think through because, like, I can't get my Goodreads to recognize each other, the two names
Sara 9:01
Oh no
Kyle 9:03
So I guess I have two now. Maybe I'll get that figured out. But there's some other things that I'm like, "Hmm, maybe I shouldn't have done that." But I just felt like this one was a little more serious, and that name was always meant to be silly. So
Lilly 9:17
You can play it as having the two different pen names for different genres.
Kyle 9:22
Yeah, they're real close, but
Lilly 9:24
Yeah.
Sara 9:26
Speaking of the difference in tone between "Fool" and your other stories, which like you say, "Fool" is, is much more serious and has a much darker tone. Did you have any, like, struggle with that, with that difference in tone wh- while you were writing? You said that also this book took a lot longer to write as well.
Kyle 9:47
Yeah, that's probably part of why it took so long is, yeah, it was kind of like learning something new, how to, how to keep that tone where it needed to be and not be helped by silliness. And, and so I mean, there, there's humor, of course, like in his shows and stuff. But yeah, the keeping the tone is always-- that's always like one of the biggest challenges, I think. Like, you, you want it to be just right. And so yeah, that was, that was difficult.
Lilly 10:19
So the title of the book, Fool, refers to our main character's profession, his title. His title, right? Not just the book's title. And in, I don't remember if it was the forward or the afterward, but you mention researching court jesters as part of your development for this book. I would love to hear more about that and just everything. I start and I would have follow-up questions.
Kyle 10:48
no. I don't know if I have that much for you. But, so the, my main book that I used was called Fools Are Everywhere by Beatrice K. Otto, I think. it's just a, an extensive history of, of, uh, fools in all kinds of countries. And yeah, it was-- I, I had a certain kind of character in mind, and it wasn't necessarily like the jester with the bells on his hat and it was more, a little bit more serious. Like when people in the book call him Kirian, the fool, he always like has to say, "And advisor to the God King," 'cause he, he feels like that title is beneath him or something. so yeah, I was kind of just searching history for somebody that was a little bit more like that, and I did find some. And then I found some, like some lines. I actually used like a line from like a super famous fool from history. Kirian uses the exact line, so I don't know if I should say it or not, but
Lilly 11:48
Ooh, is it-- how far through the book is it? How much of a spoiler is it?
Kyle 11:52
I mean, it's only... It's not, like, a huge, it's not a spoiler or anything. It's, like, midway through-ish. after he becomes a prisoner of war, the king is just gonna kill him, and he asks him, like, "How would you like to die?" And he says, "From old age," and that, like, tickled the king and, and so he let him live. And that was, like, a true story that happened, I guess, in history
Lilly 12:14
That's-- See, I recognized the joke 'cause I feel like I've seen it actually more in like genie stories, like three wish, be careful what you wish for kind of thing. I didn't know that that was from an actual thing in history. That's awesome.
Kyle 12:28
And I really should have the name of the guy who said that, but don't have it on me right now.
Lilly 12:33
We sprung the question on you. So w- during your research, did that change your approach to this position's role, or were you more just, like, getting background information to build how you saw the role?
Kyle 12:53
Oh, a little bit of both. I was really just searching for any way that I could make it work. But during that, yeah, I, I got different aspects of, of their importance in-- to the, the kings and stuff like that. And so, like a lot of times they were more important than I ever knew before I started researching it. Like sometimes the, the kings would kind of want them as close as possible and kind of respected what they had to say because everyone else was kind of a sycophant and just being yes men. And, and sometimes the fools would just say what they say, let the truth out. And so sometimes the kings actually like appreciated that
Sara 13:37
So this book features several, like, children's rhymes and drinking songs, and you even include, like, quotes from f-fictional history books. How did developing the world and culture of the novel lead to these excerpts? And, like, are there any that didn't make it into the final novel that you really enjoyed?
Kyle 13:59
there wasn't any that... Well, there might have been one, but I can't remember what that was. But yeah, I, I love those things. Like, I don't know, sometimes maybe people don't read those, maybe skip them or... I tried to keep them short enough But yeah, I, I felt like it was a great way to kind of build the world with just in little snips. Like, one of the books is kind of almost like the Prince Machiavelli teaching kings how to be kings. And then there's another book written by Kerian's mentor, who's one of my favorite characters, uh, uh, the, the old fool before he became it. And so she wrote a book, The History of Fools, and it has all kinds of little nuggets of information, and it was a place I could kind of be silly and, and funny in those. But yeah, I felt like it was a great way to, to world build
Lilly 14:49
Speaking of those epigraphs at the beginning of each chapter, it created such a full universe. Do you have more stories kind of floating around in this world, or was all of that to support Kyrian's story?
Kyle 15:08
I mean, it mostly was just to support his, but I do have some. Like I, I have two different things that I was gonna try to put out before the book came out and maybe be like, "Here's a free short story if you like it," you know? And, I did not end up finishing those, but I will. And but I'm, I'm pretty, uh, sure that I wanna have this just be a standalone as far as a, a book, but I'm kind of, out of ideas right now. So if an idea strikes me in that world, I'll definitely pursue it.
Sara 15:42
never say never, but you don't have any intention. Yeah. Talking about Kirian a little bit he struggles with fulfilling his role as a father and husband and balancing that with his career, which is a very real world conflict that, that, you know, people definitely experience. Can you talk a little bit about building this into a fantasy setting?
Kyle 16:10
Yeah. Like, so usually all the books that I write come from some kind of relationship based roughly on one that I'm in. And so this time around it was kind of, I don't know, looking at my, my own potential shortcomings as a husband and father. I think I do better than Carrion, but so yeah, that dynamic was kind of everything to me. And so yeah, working it into the fantasy wasn't particularly difficult. And then they don't really get a lot of... Well, him and his son don't get a lot of time together before something happens or he, he gets kidnapped. But him and Akali are going through some stuff a-after he's kidnapped and that was some of the stuff I enjoyed writing the most also, their relationship
Sara 17:01
I think one of the things that Lily and I talked about in the discussion that she and I had for about this book, which will be coming out later, is how good you are at writing, like, character relationships like that. And so that was definitely a really compelling point to the novel, I thought, is, is the relationship between Kyrian and Acholi.
Kyle 17:25
I had one beta reader tell me, "You know, I, I really cared about the mystery, but what I really cared about was those two." So
Lilly 17:34
definitely.
Kyle 17:35
that was cool
Lilly 17:36
Although that is also me just being a, like, on the record character reader, so, also, just how important it is that Akali is also a perspective character. I-- obviously this is Kyrian's story. He's the main character. Like, that there's not a huge argument there. But Akali definitely is a huge part of this novel, and we get to see like her, her own storyline kind of happening at the same time. And I don't have a question. I just really liked that balance and I'm really glad. I was so glad that she got so, as much page
Sara 18:16
Yeah. She's, she's a very active participant in the story and, and I appreciated that because I think it would've been easy for her to just be a side character
Lilly 18:24
Mm-hmm.
Kyle 18:24
Right. Yeah, I definitely did not want her to just be a side character. She has her own thing, and she's effective at it. And I have got a little bit of feedback so far, and people just seem to really love her. They're like, "Kirian, he's, he's okay, but Kali."
Sara 18:38
Badass
Kyle 18:39
Yeah. Yeah, she is
Lilly 18:41
Well, it's unfair to say, like-- Okay. A- Kirian, as the main character, is the one who goes through character growth, so of course there are struggles at the beginning. I'm trying to do this with no spoilers.
Kyle 18:55
Yeah. Yeah, he's, he's definitely flawed, like more flawed than I've ever made a character, I think, and so that was difficult. You gotta make him, like, likable enough, but
Lilly 19:07
Oh, I th- he's still so sympathetic, and I think part of that is because he acknowledges his flaws and is actively, like, trying.
Kyle 19:17
Right
Lilly 19:18
I think that goes a really long way. But, but so, like, of course you're gonna... I, I would rather get a beer with Acoly.
Kyle 19:25
Right. Yeah
Lilly 19:27
But as far as, like, characters go, Curion is a a more, just by a hair, a more in-depth character. Just by, like, a hair.
Kyle 19:35
I can see that He has a little more page time,
Lilly 19:38
Yeah. And he goes through more growth, right? Like, Akali kind of knows what her own deal is.
Kyle 19:43
She doesn't really need to go through.
Lilly 19:44
she has herself figured out more. Yeah. Can you tell us a little bit more about lesser dragons? I loved the way that ooh, I almost said breath weapon. Sorry, I have Dungeons Dragons in my head. But you, like, you kind of took the, the traditional fire-breathing aspect of dragons and turned it into, I would say, almost a more realistic version
Kyle 20:08
Yeah. Yeah, I think it could be. So yeah, the lesser dragons are kind of like little salamanders with wings, and they fly around and they do these little percussive blasts and kind of disorient bugs and eat them. So in my trilogy there was the same creatures basically that are called tiddly dragons back then, 'cause that sounded sillier and, and those were more lighthearted books. So these ones are lesser dragons. But there's one of them that does a play for some kids, and his name's Tiddly, so that's like a little Easter egg, I guess.
Lilly 20:43
I love that. It reminds me of, there are some ocean creatures that use like echolocation kind of the same way, right? I think. Yeah. So, it's just really fun seeing like fantasy creatures reimagined to be a little more realistic.
Sara 20:59
I didn't think of ocean creatures. I just thought the "Dragonriders of Pern," the, like the YA novels. I don't know if you ever read them, but,
Kyle 21:08
I didn't
Sara 21:09
yeah. But, but there are some small dragons in, in that, and so that's what I... They're, they're completely different from your lesser dragons. Like, it's not, it's not that they are similar in any way except size.
Kyle 21:23
Ah, okay.
Sara 21:24
but, but that is what I, what I thought of because those books were formative for me as, as a kid, so
Kyle 21:30
Yeah
Lilly 21:31
And small things are cute.
Sara 21:33
And small things are
Kyle 21:34
it's just true
Sara 21:35
As a child, I always wanted one of the, the Pern small dragons. What were they called? The fire lizards
Kyle 21:43
Mm.
Lilly 21:44
Well, I want to talk about red herrings, but I can't, 'cause if I talk about a red herring, then our listeners will know that it's a red herring.
Kyle 21:54
Yeah, it's
Lilly 21:54
that kind of affects the mystery, yeah. So, so tell us instead about crafting a mystery. Was, was the answer, which we won't say what it is, always what the answer was? Did you have fun, like, crafting some of the false leads that our main character ended up investigating?
Kyle 22:16
yeah, v-very much so. That, that is a, a fun part of it. And as far as what the ultimate, like, reveal is I didn't know it right at first. I just wanted to get to something cool, and then when I-- once I hit that, I was like, "Okay, yeah, that's... How can I make this work?" and then, yeah, the, the red herrings and stuff was a lot of fun, and it's also pretty tricky because you don't-- you wanna give away... Like, you kinda want, after the reveal, to say, "Oh, I could have, I could have seen that maybe. There were signs." But you don't wanna give too many signs. It's, it's pretty tough, and, like, beta readers are very helpful with such things
Lilly 22:54
I loved e- every single time a new option was intro- not option, but like possibility was introduced, I was 100 on board with, "Oh yeah, that's Like that must be it. I'm getting hinted at that that's what it's going to be." and then yeah, the way that they all kind of forked out and then we ended up getting to the real answer, that was all very fulfilling as a reader. And definitely I'm looking forward to rereading it knowing where it goes. That's the best part of mysteries in my opinion.
Kyle 23:25
Yeah
Sara 23:26
So this is a question that we do tend to like to ask, but how different was the first draft of this novel from the final book?
Kyle 23:34
So I guess I, I kind of have a different process than a lot of people, I think. I, I don't necessarily have like one draft and then go back into it and do another. It's kind of just a work in progress. Like I'll do a few chapters and then I'll say, "Okay, now I need to change something in the first chapter," so I'll go back over the whole thing, and I kind of just do that as it goes. So it's a little bit different as far as drafts go. But there's a lot of changes, and especially in actually the editing process, there was a lot of changes, and they were-- they all made the book better. Nathan Hall was my editor, and I just love his work. He's, has all kinds of insights and just made the relationships better, made things work better, and so that's where the biggest changes came in.
Lilly 24:26
You mentioned kind of being in a, a slump for ideas right now. Does that mean I will finally get my zombie novel from you?
Kyle 24:38
You might. And so I was, I was just, not to drop names, but I was just on the Our podcast while I recorded with them yesterday, and they are trying to get me to make a book with Aka- Akali as the main character. And so maybe I could have her fight zombies and get both of them at once.
Lilly 24:59
There you go.
Sara 25:00
I'm here for that.
Kyle 25:02
Yeah.
Lilly 25:03
She would be an amazing main character in a zombie storyline.
Kyle 25:07
Actually, I mean, I don't hate that idea.
Lilly 25:11
Yeah.
Sara 25:12
And I feel like you could work it in with the world that's been developed in Fool
Kyle 25:17
Yeah, I think so
Lilly 25:18
Especially given, like, the ramifications of what happens at the end of the book. Who knows? Who knows what's going on? Not me. You do, theoretically.
Sara 25:27
Or, or even, even something that happens before Akali meets Kyrion. Like, there's a lot of wiggle room for zombies in this, in this world.
Kyle 25:40
Yes. I will have to pursue that a little bit and think about that
Lilly 25:44
Kyle, thank you so much for joining us. We enjoyed reading the book so much. We also recorded a full episode on it, which listeners can look forward to next week and have a spoiler-free and spoiler-y conversation between Sarah and I. In that episode, we ask who should read this book, and I think we should reiterate that now, since it's closer to the book's release, Sarah?
Sara 26:10
Yeah. So I think if you want a book with a compelling mystery, fantastic character relationships and also just a lot of really morally gray... We didn't talk about this in this interview, but there's a lot of moral gray areas in this book where you're not sure who to root for because they're all, they're all kind of a little bit valid, but also still terrible in the way that... And, but you still, like, really enjoy it.
Lilly 26:41
I wouldn't even say terrible. Yeah, just flawed. Except for Akali, who's perfect
Sara 26:46
A ca- yeah, a collie is the exception. I would argue maybe that the God King is terrible, but also very flawed. But he has some redeeming qualities that we, we do talk about in the discussion that, that will come out next week. So if that's the kind of thing that you enjoy, I think you will enjoy "Fool."
Kyle 27:07
Nice. I really look forward to hearing that episode.
Lilly 27:10
Especially if you're, I would say, a classic fantasy fan. It-- to me, if you really loved classic fantasy but got tired of maybe prejudiced tropes, this is a, a really wonderful book that fits. It scratches that itch, but also fixes a lot of the issues that I tend to have with older fantasy novels
Kyle 27:34
Sweet.
Lilly 27:35
And, uh, yeah, sorry. Sit there in silence while we compliment you. While we have you is there anything that you would like readers to take away from the book?
Kyle 27:47
I just hope that they can get kinda lost in the, the mystery, and I hope that when it's revealed, it's fulfilling for them. I hope the relationships resonate with them in some way, and that maybe even some of the funny parts of the shows get a, a laugh or two. And I just hope people enjoy it. There's actually an audiobook that's already been recorded, and it sounds awesome, but I'm waiting on that. It, it could be a few weeks, I guess, until it's through the process
Lilly 28:21
Oh, that's great to know. As a new parent, I'm-- everyone tells me that audiobooks are the way to go,
Kyle 28:28
Oh yeah, for sure
Lilly 28:29
for my mystery fulfilling reread, perhaps that's what I will
Kyle 28:34
Perfect
Sara 28:35
And Kyle, if people want to keep up with news about the audiobook or hear about anything else you're working on, where can you be found on the internet?
Kyle 28:44
My new favorite place to be on the internet, I think, is Instagram, and I'm author KRLockhaven there. I'm pretty sure there's only one R. And then I'm on, on Blue Sky. Oh gosh, I forgot what my Blue Sky name was. Twitter is, uh, @kyles137. I try to... Since the book's coming out, I try to stay a little bit active on all of them
Sara 29:11
You are krlockhaven.bsky.social
Kyle 29:14
Thank you very much. And oh, and my website still has two Rs, krrlockhaven.com
Sara 29:22
The correct number of Rs
Kyle 29:24
right.
Lilly 29:26
It's funny, we, we re-released our conversation about your, I think it's your debut, The Conjuring of Zoth Avorex. And we had a whole conversation about how much we loved that you were K.R. Redundant Lockhaven.
Kyle 29:43
Oh, I know. I listened to that, and I, I remember that, that you guys-- I, I kinda told the, the other podcast that, I go, "That's how I became friends with them, I think, is 'cause they, they loved that second R."
Sara 29:54
That's the only reason we became friends with you, but it definitely helped.
Lilly 29:58
Yeah.
Kyle 29:58
Broke the ice, sir.
Lilly 30:00
Yeah. Well, thank you so much for joining us, Kyle. I hope everyone listening goes out and gets "Fool," which is as of, well, recording, available for purchase. And then if you're listening to this in the future, it's been available for who knows how long.
Kyle 30:20
And there's an audiobook too.
Lilly 30:21
And there's an audiobook because it's the future and everything exists. There will be links in the description to both follow Kyle and find his book, and thank you so much.
Kyle 30:32
Thank you. This was great
Lilly 30:37
Thank you so much for listening to this episode of Fiction Fans.
Sara 30:41
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Lilly 30:52
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Sara 31:00
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Lilly 31:06
Thanks again for listening, and may your villains always be defeated.
Sara 31:10
Bye!
